5.66 million Californians voted FOR Proposition 8.
5.15 million Californians voted AGAINST Proposition 8. (as of Saturday, although some provisional ballots remain to be counted, statisticians still project that it will pass.)
5.15 million Californians voted AGAINST Proposition 8. (as of Saturday, although some provisional ballots remain to be counted, statisticians still project that it will pass.)
The LDS Church is taking a lot of heat, and I will be the first to admit that they were front and center in the fight. However, estimates of the LDS membership in California are somewhere between 754,000 and 1,885,000 (utilizing 2007 Census estimates of a California population of 37.7 million, and LDS church membership of 2-5% of the Californian population). So even if every man, woman, and child older than the age of 8 voted FOR proposition 8 (and that is a statistical impossibility because 8 year olds can't vote, and I know Barbara Young voted AGAINST), that still leaves a minimum of 3.78 MILLION Californians not of the LDS faith who also voted FOR the proposition (restated, anywhere from 2/3 to 3/4 of all votes cast in support of the Proposition came from those who were not LDS).
Again, I know that the LDS people were extremely supportive of the proposition, both in their willingness to be vocal, and in their willingness to open their wallets. It makes us a target because we are known. That's a risk anyone takes when taking a stand, and I am sure that there are some on the other side of this argument who have also been targeted because of their willingness to speak their minds. The reason I bring up the statistics involved is that although Mormons were vocal, they weren't even a majority in passing this proposition. The LDS Church is rightfully in the cross hairs of those who are disappointed in the way the vote went, but I'm just arguing that they shouldn't be the only ones in the cross hairs. I think it's fair to say that change is needed- some LDS faithful have gone too far, as have some of their opponents. This brings me to Part Two of our discussion today- how does one bring about change in others?
I have certainly seen examples of what NOT to do in the last few days. Again, let's just be logical. If I am a gay person, and I would like to enjoy additional acceptance from the LDS church, how in the world is vandalizing their house of worship EVER going to accomplish that? I guarantee you that not one single Mormon has thought to themselves, "You know, I voted for Proposition 8. But now that my church has been spray painted, hey, I totally see the error of my ways." Similarly, if I'd like to make friends with a gay person, I can promise that spray painting "Faggot!" on the doors of Ikea isn't going to do the trick. At the risk of sounding trite, if we want to be tolerated, we must be tolerant. If we wanted to be treated with kindness, we must be kind. Who's to say how I might have voted on the same proposition? No matter what my feelings politically, our loving Father in Heaven has told us that every soul has worth. There has to be a way to disagree politically without demeaning each other, and I hope that we can figure it out.
(If you don't know where you stand, try this on for size: "I support gay marriage, as long as both chicks are hot.")
5 comments:
I was thinking the same thing the last couple of days... why all the vandalism? It just does not make sense. It does not further anyone's cause.
Well said. It's such a tough issue. We had the similar Prop. 102here in AZ that also narrowly passed, in large part to the efforts of church members. (Mostly Mormon, but many others too.)I hate that people think that it is due to hate and prejudice. In some cases, it is. But the vast majority are just fear the slippery slope that ends with education mandates for Kindergartners and excessive interference in religious freedoms. Why do I sense that this issue will not be going away anytime soon?
Hey, way to go out on a limb. I felt so isolated every time I posted anything political, like suddenly all my readers went on vacations with no internet for awhile.
This is a tough issue for sure. I have found several really good articles, op ed pieces, etc. that I would be happy to share. The gist of my feelings on the topic is that "8 is not hate," as so many people claim. It doesn't surprise me that the church has been targeted the way it has, but it does sadden me.
I have read some very interesting stuff from groups sending around petitions to try to have the LDS church stripped of their non-profit status, as well as imposing some kind of boycott on Utah skiing. Looks like Californians will be skiing in Colorado this year...
Though I am a church member, and have heard stories and seen the news about what's going on, I'm very much distanced in some ways from the situation geographically. LDS people in California, on the other hand, have had to endure horrible things. My friend, Julie, told me about her friends there having dog poop smeared all over their cars and Yes on 8 signs, and poop dumped all over their lawns. WHAT IN THE WORLD???? Like you said, that's not going to promote any kind of understanding or good will. YIKES. And I thought people stealing Obama signs was crazy.
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